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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 93 08:20:36 PST
From: The Moderators <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #242
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Info-Mac Digest             Mon, 20 Dec 93       Volume 11 : Issue 242

Today's Topics:

      [*] Default Folder 2.46
      [*] ExAminer 1.0.1
      [*] F/A-18 FAQ
      [*] GameMaster rulebook - Crystal Ball
      [*] Ghost 1.0 (source code)
      [*] Ghost 1.0 (word game)
      [*] Handeze Size Chart (PICT)
      [*] hyper-gasp.hqx
      [*] Hypercard Exercise Log 1.05
      [*] IConArtist-1.1d3.sit.hqx
      [*] Internet Guide for posting
      [*] Kitchen Sink
      [*] mac.ftp.list Version 3.7.9
      [*] Mangia Demo: the archive
      [*] OtherMenu Sharing Toggle E...
      [*] SetupPartitions 1.0.1
      [*] SoundApp
      [*] Startup Screen Picker 1.1 (INIT) [repost]
      [*] Startup Screen Picker 1.1 (source code)
      [*] Symbionts 2.3.1
      [*] Symbionts 2.3.1 Patch
      [*] Text Editor Patches, v. 1.3.1
      [*] The Critical Eye hypercard stack
      [*] touch-tone-decoder-12.hqx
      [*] Trecker 2.0->English patch
      (Q) Biogeographic clipart
      Adjustable keyboard and Apple Modem ToolBox
      Another Missing Digest: #238
      ARA/ScreenLink advice needed...
      Atticus Vista
      AV Audio Input Questions
      Best place for VRAM (summary)
      Boycott NOT
      Boycott YES!
      Bridge Program for Mac (Q)
      CD300i Package
      CD Roms for a newspaper
      Command symbol in Chicago (A)
      Disk setup software for A/UX and MacOS (Q)
      Easter Egg in Now Contact
      gif to PICT converter (Q)
      Hard Drive Leftovers
      Hermies II
      Icon Previews - ThumbNail or alternative (Q)
      Info-mac mirror sites list?
      Internet Verbiage (2 msgs)
      JOB: Looking for person good w/Illustrator
      LaCie is Wrong!
      LaCie repair service - NONE?!?!?!
      LineLink fax modems
      Mac "REAL" multitasking...? (q)
      Mac "REAL" multitasking...? (r) (4 msgs)
      Mac IIsi - why no upgrade path?
      Netiquette on thread and subject lines (Re: A few unanswered questions)
      New Hard Drive Needed (Q)
      persistance of vision 2.1
      Photoshop color separations
      PopChar 2.*6*.2 (C)
      PopChar 2.6.2 vs. earlier versions
      Popchar and Chicago
      Quadra 660AV info(summary) CORRECTIONS
      quadra 840av video port
      QuicKeys replacement?
      Quicktime Init problem
      RasterOps FTP Server
      SeaQuest sez...
      SITcomm (C)
      Speech for Excel
      Speech recognition programs
      Splat/Chicago Symbols/PopChar
      Terminal connection programs
      Using Mac to produce training videos
      WANTED:  List for Amiga users
      Want to Swap German-style PB AC Adapter for US-style

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 93 21:13:09 EST
From: [e-mail] (Jon Gotow)
Subject: [*] Default Folder 2.46

Following is the latest release of Default Folder, version 2.46.  It fixes
a bug in version 2.45 which could cause crashes if an extension displayed a
dialog box before the Finder was launched.

Default Folder is a control panel device that allows you to set up default
folders for applications and desk accessories. It also provides pop-up
menus in the standard file dialog (like Directory Assistance or
SuperBoomerang) for navigating between often-used folders and disks and for
modifying the current application's default folder.  It also provides a
"rebound" feature which reselects the last file you chose.  Default Folder
is shareware.

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/default-folder-246.hqx; 137K]

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Date: 17 Dec 1993 07:52:14 -0800
From: "Mike Weasner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] ExAminer 1.0.1

Here is ExAminer, an application that is similar to the various extension
manager type of programs, but being an application, has more features and a
nicer interface. Version 1.0.1 is a minor bug fix release to correct a problem
that appeared on some 68000 Macs under System 7.1.

ExAminer supports Macintosh Plus and newer computers. ExAminer requires System
7.0 or later. ExAminer is compatible with multiple monitors and large screen
monitors.

ExAminer is a shareware program. If you like and use ExAminer, please send your
name and mailing address to the author along with the $10.00 (U.S.) shareware
fee. Registered users of ExAminer will receive support via online services, and
future updates free or at reduced cost. In fairness to those who register,
unregistered users will not receive any support.

[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/examiner-101.hqx; 71K]

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 12:41:07 -0600
From: [e-mail] (ashok rodrigues)
Subject: [*] F/A-18 FAQ

Attached is version 1.4 of the F/A-18 FAQ. This can replace version 1.3
currently in info-mac/games/com.

Thanks!
Ashok Rodrigues
12/15/93

[Archived as /info-mac/game/com/fa-18-faq-14.txt; 38K]

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 93 17:55:24 WST
From: Rhys Hollow <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] GameMaster rulebook - Crystal Ball

Crystal Ball is a rulebook for GameMaster that finds GameMaster opponents
over the internet.  It is not a standalone game, but must be launched from
within GameMaster.  GameMaster is a game shell that lets you play two
player games (called rulebooks) over a network (internet or appletalk).
If you cannot find GameMaster at your local archive site, it is available
at redback.cs.uwa.edu.au in the "/Others/RhysHollow" directory and is named
"GMUseKit.cpt". Please check your local archive site first.

Crystal Ball is not a game at all.  When connected to a special server (named
a "Spirit World", due mainly to metaphor mania), it registers the player
as available for a game.  The server informs Crystal Ball of all other
players also registered at that Spirit World, and these players are listed
in the rulebook's window.  From this list, the player can select someone to
play a different rulebook.  When you are no longer available to play, you
just disconnect Crystal Ball.  Crystal Ball is most useful if you feel like
playing a game, but you don't have anyone to play with.

This archive includes a the rulebook "Crystal Ball", documentation for this
rulebook, and a saved game of Crystal Ball.

Rhys.  <[e-mail]> 16th December 1993.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/crystal-ball.hqx; 19K]

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 04:10:10 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Mark Pilgrim)
Subject: [*] Ghost 1.0 (source code)

Ghost is a classic word-building game for two or more players.  Players take
turns each adding a letter to build a word, and whoever finishes the word
loses the round.  Lose five rounds, and you become a "ghost" and are out of
the game!  Up to five human players can compete against up to five computer
players at a variety of skill levels.

Ghost is free and is distributed under the GNU General Public License; this
archive contains complete THINK C source code for the game, as well as complete
source code for an external application used to set up the game's self-
integrity checker. If you do not have FTP access, e-mail the author requesting
a copy of the game, the source code, or a list of other programs by the same
author.  The address is [e-mail].  Bug reports, comments, and
suggestions may be sent to the same address.

This archive contains both THINK C 5 and THINK C 6 project files.  Use
whichever one you wish and throw away the other.

The code demonstrates the basics of event handling, menus, hierarchical menus,
prefs file maintenance, dialogs, alerts, windows, off-screen bitmaps,
synchronous and asynchronous sounds, machine-independent timing loops, file
maintenance, Gestalt environment checking, apple events, and the not-quite-
yet-famous "cough to continue" modal dialog filter proc.  None of this is very
well commented, but feel free to direct any questions to [e-mail].

Ghost 1.0 is copyright 1993, Mark Pilgrim, MerriMac Software Group.

[Archived as /info-mac/dev/src/ghost-10-c.hqx; 496K]

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 04:09:11 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Mark Pilgrim)
Subject: [*] Ghost 1.0 (word game)

Ghost is a classic word-building game for two or more players.  Players take
turns each adding a letter to build a word, and whoever finishes the word
loses the round.  Lose five rounds, and you become a "ghost" and are out of
the game!  Up to five human players can compete against up to five computer
players at a variety of skill levels.

Ghost is free and is distributed under the GNU General Public License; complete
C source code will be uploaded to the archives.  If you do not have FTP access,
e-mail the author requesting a copy of the game, the source code, or a list of
other programs by the same author.  The address is [e-mail].  Bugs
reports, comments, and suggestions may be sent to the same address.

System 6 and 7 compatible; B/W, color, and grayscale monitors supported.

Ghost 1.0 is copyright 1993, Mark Pilgrim, MerriMac Software Group.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/ghost-10.hqx; 401K]

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 22:42:33 -0500 (EST)
From: "Craig O'Donnell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Handeze Size Chart (PICT)

The binhex that follows is a size chart of Handeze gloves and a short
text file in a StuffIt Deluxe archive. For more on Handeze gloves see
TidBITS 199 and 200, and RSI Network Newsletter #15 and 16 (16 isnt out
until Feb 1994).

[Archived as /info-mac/info/nms/handeze-size-chart.hqx; 47K]

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 93 14:28:03 PST
From: [e-mail] (Frank Besig)
Subject: [*] hyper-gasp.hqx

The file RHyperGASP Tour.SEAS is a color HyperCard( presentation which
demonstrates some of the capabilities of HyperGASP*, a multimedia development
tool for the Macintosh. It includes color images, sound resources, icon
animations, and a sample QuickTime movie.

HyperGASP is an auto-scripting system which adds color and extends the
multimedia power of HyperCard without requiring the user to program. HyperGASP
employs an intuitive, informative dialog-based interface to guide users in the
placement of media elements (graphics, images, sounds, QuickTime movies, color,
videodisc sequences, and text.) It is designed to facilitate the making of
interactive courseware and presentations. GASP features collections of buttons
and exercise templates, an interactive quiz-maker, advanced text control, a
Rsound composerS and sound library among its more than 30 utilities, each of
which is described in the tour.

RABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC! ... the best new product on the Mac this year!S Q Gary
Dauphin, Senior Multimedia Engineer, New Orleans, Louisiana.

Requirements:  HyperCard 2.0 or later, a color or grayscale monitor.

Checked for viruses with Disinfectant 3.2

Caliban Mindwear
6590 Camino Carreta
Carpinteria, CA 93013
805-684-7765 voice/fax
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/card/hyper-gasp.hqx; 744K]

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 93 06:43:33 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] Hypercard Exercise Log 1.05

Presenting EXERCISE LOG for the Macintosh, version 1.05

New features & bug fixes
 -----------------------

v. 1.05: - can provide more default information for common workouts
     - expanded workout search functions
v. 1.04: - fixed bug in "change workout date" function
v. 1.03: - fixed bug in Help printing
     - replaced some shared-text fields by background
       graphics, to make display faster & less system-dependent

General description
 ------------------

Exercise Log is a Hypercard-based activities log that lets you store
information about each workout you do in an unlimited number of sports.
It offers an attractive and useful middle ground between paper-based logs
(in which you have to do all the tallying, etc. yourself) and spread-sheet
models (which tend to be too rigid for free-form information entry).

For each workout, there are fields for date, sport, workout-type, effort,
distance, time, pace, course-name, details, and description, weather, and
shoes used (or inline skates, or bike equipment, etc.).
In addition, your resting pulse rate and weight for the day can be entered.
The log will automatically calculate pace, and add up distances and number
of workouts in a week or year.

Address comments, criticisms, suggestions for improvement, etc. to:
[e-mail], and send the shareware fee to:
Maurits van der Veen
Department of Government
Harvard University
Cambridge, MA 02138.

[Archived as /info-mac/app/exercise-log-105-hc.hqx; 193K]

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 02:04:19 -0800
From: [e-mail] (N. Jonas Englund)
Subject: [*] IConArtist-1.1d3.sit.hqx

This is a quite popular system icon installer that's been
available for a while on commercial online services. I think
you should have it, since many Internet users ask for a
convenient ftp site to download it from. Thanks!

Regards,
N. Jonas Englund

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/icon-artist-11d3.hqx; 32K]

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 11:52:11 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Paul Beard)
Subject: [*] Internet Guide for posting

An Internet guide to governnment resources, in PostScript format.

If you'd like to post it, it might be useful.

[Archived as /info-mac/info/nms/internet-gov-resources-ps.hqx; 113K]

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 93 10:23:06 EST
From: Kevin Raner <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Kitchen Sink

Here is my Cristmas present to the net. It's a Control Panel called "Kitchen
Sink" which I wrote for those who have everything on their Mac (but the Kitchen
Sink). This freeware control panel watches cursor activity and whenever the
system is busy (as judged by the watch cursor) gives an audible indication in
the form of a dripping sound. Requires System 7.1 and System Update 2.0.1.

Kevin Raner
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/kitchen-sink.hqx; 54K]

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 12:42:58 -0600
From: bruce grubb <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] mac.ftp.list Version 3.7.9

Archive name: mac-ftp-list379.txt
category: communication, text

This is the latest version this report and should replace the previous version
of mac-ftp-list.txt.

Changes:  ccb.ucsf.edu no longer has Mac files. ip# address of
      rusmv1.rus.uni-stuttgart.de changed.
Added sites:  laplace.stat.ucla.edu

This is a update to Mike Gleason's ftp list {He gave me permision to continue
it}.  It lists a good number of mac anonymous ftp sites with notes on some and
a little blurb on how to use anonymous ftp.

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/info/mac-ftp-list-379.txt; 34K]

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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 13:03:46 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Steve Upstill)
Subject: [*] Mangia Demo: the archive

The following mail is a BinHex archive (sans linefeeds) for a revised demo
of the Mangia cooking software. I believe Adam Engst submitted the first
version, but this one represents an update to the software. If you could
replace the current mangia-demo.hqx with this, I'd be much obliged.

Many thanks.
Steve Upstill

[Archived as /info-mac/app/mangia-demo.hqx; 714K]

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Date: 14 Dec 1993 18:09:00 U
From: "Robert Hess" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] OtherMenu Sharing Toggle E...

OtherMenu Sharing Toggle E...             via Mail*Link(r) for PowerTalk(tm)/QM
Enclosed is my OtherMenu Sharing Toggle Extension, version 0.2. This is an
extension for James W. Walker's OtherMenu which toggles the state of file
sharing on/off. It will display a dialog box briefly indicating what it
has done.

Robert Hess                            AppleLink: WNDZSX
MacWEEK                                CompuServe: 72511,333
301 Howard                             America Online: MacWEEK
San Francisco, Calif. 94105            MCI: RHESS
[phone] days                    Internet:
[phone] fax                        [e-mail]
[phone] nights                  I speak for myself. That's all.

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/other-menu-filesharing-toggle-02.hqx; 8K]

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 93 14:40:13 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Alex Rodella)
Subject: [*] SetupPartitions 1.0.1

SetupPartitions is a neat utility that lets you create more
than one Macintosh partition on a hard disk formatted with
Apple HD SC Setup.
It _requires_ at least System 6.0.4 to run.
SetupPartitions lets you use true, "hard" partitions
(as opposed to "soft" partitions).

Quadra AV users will particularly appreciate SetupPartitions:
in fact, it seems that the only driver exploiting the new
awesome hardware capabilities of the AVs is the Apple one.
So you want to format with Apple HD SC Setup.
Since these days hard disks are pretty huge, you also want
to partition. So you want SetupPartitions.

No code changes in 1.0.1; user interface adjustments &
improved documentation.

Enjoy yourself and remember the US$10 shareware fee!

Fabrizio Oddone

[Archived as /info-mac/disk/setup-partitions-101.hqx; 25K]

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 09:16:17 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Norman Franke, III)
Subject: [*] SoundApp

Enclosed is my first contribution: SoundApp 1.0 (working on a better name)
is a drag and drop System 7 utility which will play sounds in a variety of
popular formats. I am the author, and it is freeware. See the about box for
more information. I find it especially helpful when reading
comp.binaries.sounds.misc.

Merry Christmas,

[Archived as /info-mac/snd/util/sound-app-10.hqx; 88K]

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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 19:05:18 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Mark Pilgrim)
Subject: [*] Startup Screen Picker 1.1 (INIT) [repost]

Startup Screen Picker is an INIT which will pick a random startup screen to
be displayed during at startup, during INIT loading.  This INIT is free and
is distributed under the GNU General Public License; complete C source code
will be uploaded to the archive sites.  If you do not have FTP access, e-mail
the author for a copy of the INIT, the source code, or a list of other programs
by the same author.  The address is [e-mail].

This INIT should work under any system, with any monitor, on any Macintosh.
Please report any bugs/comments/suggestions to [e-mail].

Startup Screen Picker 1.1 is copyright 1993, Mark Pilgrim, MerriMac Software
Group.

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/startup-screen-picker-11.hqx; 22K]

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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 19:06:04 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Mark Pilgrim)
Subject: [*] Startup Screen Picker 1.1 (source code)

Startup Screen Picker is an INIT which will pick a random startup screen to
be displayed during at startup, during INIT loading.  This INIT is free and
is distributed under the GNU General Public License; this archive contains
complete THINK C 6.0.1 source code and project files for the INIT.  If you
do not have FTP access, e-mail the author for a copy of the INIT, the source
code, or a list of other programs by the same author.  The address is
[e-mail].

This code demonstrates the basics of INIT writing, file moving (through
PBCatMove), preference files, and using the Notification Manager.  This code
should work under any system, with any monitor, on all Macintoshes.  Please
report any bugs/comments/suggestions to [e-mail].

Startup Screen Picker 1.1 is copyright 1993, Mark Pilgrim, MerriMac Software
Group.

[Archived as /info-mac/dev/src/startup-screen-picker-11-c.hqx; 48K]

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 93 15:53:56 EST
From: Kevin Hardman -- Personal Account <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Symbionts 2.3.1

Please find below Symbionts 2.3.1.sit.hqx.

This is a complete distribution of Symbionts 2.3.1.  It fixes several visual
problems (reduces the size of the dialog, fixes icon highlighting, jumping
text, and 32-bit pictures).  It also fixes several speed problems and provides
a better estimate on debugger memory usage.

--Kevin

[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/symbionts-231.hqx; 94K]

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 93 15:48:54 EST
From: Kevin Hardman -- Personal Account <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Symbionts 2.3.1 Patch

Please find below Symbionts 2.3.1 Patch.sit.hqx.

This is a self applying patch to update Symbionts 2.3 to Symbionts 2.3.1.  It
fixes several visual problems (reduces the size of the dialog, fixes icon
highlighting, jumping text, and 32-bit pictures).  It also fixes several speed
problems and provides a better estimate on debugger memory usage.

--Kevin

[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/symbionts-23-to-231-updt.hqx; 29K]

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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 93 21:38:32 EST
From: [e-mail] (Jim Walker)
Subject: [*] Text Editor Patches, v. 1.3.1

TEP installs one-app patches.  Unlike INITs,
they don't use RAM except when using the patched app.

Detailed instructions for use and a discussion of the function
of each patch is included in the online help function in the Patcher.

Patches include:
* Use the page up & page down keys in apps that don't handle them.
* Put the hot spot of HyperCard's text cursor in the normal place.
* Make unfriendly apps like AOL let you use system menus
even when a modal dialog is showing.
* A form of word wrap (e.g., for THINK C or BBEdit Lite).
* Type (), [], {} in matched pairs.
* Same for $$, for TeX.
* Common emacs keystrokes.

Not compatible with PopUpFuncs.

 -- Jim Walker

[Archived as /info-mac/text/text-editor-patches-131.hqx; 28K]

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 93 16:30:21 PST
From: [e-mail] (Scott Stark)
Subject: [*] The Critical Eye hypercard stack

This hypercard stack was produced by Strategies for Media Literacy,
Inc., a non-profit organization that promotes media education
in the United States.

*The Critical Eye:  Inside Television Advertising* is an interactive media
literacy resource designed for Macintosh users who want to teach and learn
about television advertising in the secondary and post-secondary classroom.
The resource includes information about political, product and public service
advertising.  Users can also play a game that allows them to "create" a San
Francisco Giants ad.  Intended to supplement classroom lessons about
advertising and propaganda, the interactive videodisc contains television ads,
historical ads, storyboards of ad campaigns, audience research information,
interviews with advertising executives, producers and political consultants,
and much, much more.

This is a demo version. The fully registered version comes with a
videodisc, the online game, and a full instruction manual.  See
the Readme.txt file for details.

[Archived as /info-mac/info/nms/critical-eye-hc.hqx; 815K]

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 07:46:23 -0500
From: gsmattes <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] touch-tone-decoder-12.hqx

     Touch Tone Decoder 1.2 allows you to determine which, if any touch tones
are in a sound file.  It also recognizes rings, busy signals, and the dial
tone.
     It supports direct recording and the importation of AIF files.  The
friendly and pretty interface allows playback and analysis of portions of
the sample, as well as the ability to save and print the results of the
analysis.  It is both fast and accurate.
     This is a full-featured version, except that it will not acknowledge
three touch tones (randomly chosen each launch).  To get the fully working
version, you must register by sending the author a (reasonable) shareware
fee.  Depending on response, it may be expanded to work with AppleScript,
and recognize tones on the fly (and in the background).
     Works in system 6.0.7 and above, no sound input device is needed.

[Archived as /info-mac/snd/util/touch-tone-decoder-12.hqx; 108K]

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 93 09:16:23 EST
From: [e-mail] (Matthew Ahrens)
Subject: [*] Trecker 2.0->English patch

This is a patch for SoundTrecker 2.0
It makes almost all the text, including Balloon Help, English.
The origional is in German.
Open the application for more documentation.
Checked for viruses with Disinfectaant 3.3.

[Archived as /info-mac/snd/util/sound-trecker-20-us-patch.hqx; 35K]

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 93 14:13:49 PST
From: [e-mail] (Staffan Andersson)
Subject: (Q) Biogeographic clipart

Anyone out there that has or knows of a (free-, share- or buyware)
MAP-collection giving not only country borders, but also some geographical
and biogeographical details (like major fauna zones, vegetation categories,
rainfall, altitude, stuff like that)? The MapArt and World Data Bank (sold
by Cartesia Software) is all I have found so far, but they do not include
more than country borders.
AFRICA and EUROPE are my main interests (I am mapping distributions of bird
species), but I would appreciate info also on other regions
Thanks,
Staffan
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Staffan Andersson
Biology 0116
University of California, San Diego
9500 Gilman Drive
La Jolla, CA 92093
USA

phone: [phone]
fax:    [phone]

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 06:52:46 -0600 (CST)
From: Larry Rymal_Macintosh Custodian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Adjustable keyboard and Apple Modem ToolBox

On Thu, 16 Dec 1993, Alan Gordon wrote:

> As I understand it, the Adjustable keyboard shows itself as 2 ADB addresses,
> one for the left and one for the right.  Maybe that is why only some of the
> key commands work.  It could be in the software application..

Alan,

    Well, the Adjustable keyboard can be run with or without the
auxilary keypad (not everyone needs the HELP, HOME, PAGEUP, etc., keys).
And it is just tickled to do it.  On word processors and other programs,
it works just fine--the cursor keys work, everything.  But, put this
keyboard on a program that uses the Apple Modem ToolBox and you have major
character recognition problems with non-ASCII standard keys.
    Apple certainly needs to do some updating of device drivers or
something.  I'd like to call the Apple SOS number, but I'd want to arm
myself with some decent technical data so that I can convince whatever
minimum-wage worker is handling the trouble line that I know what I'm
talking about.  ;(
    It it a pity that Apple doesn't have a fix for this.  This is a
nice keyboard especially for folks with UPPER WRIST difficulties, rather
than lower carpal tunnel syndrome problems.

--Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 93 07:12:23 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Carol Conti-Entin)
Subject: Another Missing Digest: #238

Thanks very much for getting #233 to the archives and the Rice mirror.
Now I'm trying to find a way to read #238, which didn't make it to our
Usenet reader or to the Rice mirror, even though #239 and #240 are
already at Rice.

Did #238 make it into the archives?  If so, I trust Rice will get it
in a day or so.  If not, could someone upload it to Sumex?  Thanks!

[Yes -- 238 has not yet shown up here either.  :(  Because we are sick of
this constant problem of loosing digests we have changed the way they get
archived.  No longer does a digest pass through the internet mail system
between publishing and archiving on sumex.  We have also put in explicit
protections against archiving duplicate volume/issue digests.  Hopefully,
in the future, there will less of a need for messages like this one!  If
someone does have 238 and they can send it to us we can archive it.  Then
we can be done with this durned paper (e-mail?) chase. Who is John Houseman
anyway? ;-) -Gordon]

[Well, looks like the net e-mail system woke up at some point this weekend,
and 238 has shown up.  It will be in the archives by the end of today
(Monday).
Hopefully this won't happen again. -Gordon]

--
Carol Conti-Entin  2878 Chadbourne Road, Shaker Heights, OH 44120-2215
216-561-8720   Internet: [e-mail]

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Date: 16 Dec 1993 09:37:13 +0000
From: [e-mail] (Alan Hewat, ILL Grenoble)
Subject: ARA/ScreenLink advice needed...

"Joshua B. Colglazier"  <[e-mail]> wrote:

>2) I'm considering purchasing ScreenLink for about $30.  The seller
>   tells me it will accomplish the same thing as ARA in terms of
>   connecting the computer and will even allow me to have remote
>   control over the other computer's desktop (this sounds like an
>   easier, better and cheaper solution than ARA to me).

I use ARA and have tried ScreenLink and Timbuktu, which is similar but
(much) more expensive and (a little) more powerful.

Neither ScreenLink nor Timbuktu are meant to replace ARA.  You can
use them without ARA, but you can also connect with them through ARA.
They allow you to see and control the desktop of another Mac over
Appletalk or a modem connection  (or even ethernet).  With a 14.4k
modem they are quite usuable when you get used to the slow screen
re-drawing and mouse movement.

ARA is different.  It allows you to connect to appletalk via a modem.
Then you can mount the disk of the remote Mac on your local Mac's
desktop using system 7 filesharing.  You still have to transport files
over a relatively slow modem, but you can use applications on the
local Mac to edit them etc, which is usually much faster than
transmitting the quickdraw screen re-drawing via the modem.

ARA is extremely useful if you want access to files on your remote
Mac.  If you put Appletalk on your Unix machines, you can also manage
and edit Unix files remotely. You can simultaneously connect a terminal
emulator (Versaterm) through ARA.  Apple have announced ARA 2 and
an ARA server nubus card that will serve up to 4 remote users -  you
can put up to 4 such cards in nubus slots in the server Mac.

So get ScreenLink - at $30 its a great deal - but think about getting
ARA as well.  (If you need to see the remote screen in color or to
connect to PCs, you'll need Timbuktu instead of ScreenLink).


Alan Hewat, ILL Grenoble, FRANCE ([e-mail]) Fax (France=33).76.48.39.06

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 11:51:11 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Jack D OLeary)
Subject: Atticus Vista

Anyone have any experince with Atticus' Vista.  This is a new
application that catalogs disks and also creates disk labels.
I've been needing something like this badly and hope that
Vista fills the need.  The speed of file searches and flexibility
in label creation are important to me.

- Jack O'Leary, [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 16 Dec 1993 14:33:59 -0500
From: "Richard C. S. Kinne" <[e-mail]>
Subject: AV Audio Input Questions

Folks:

    We are begining to experiment with some video production with a
Quadra 660AV here at SUNY Morrisville.  Video input and output is no
problem at this time.  What we are confused about is audio input.
The only audio input on a 660AV seems to be the Plaintalk mic jack in
the back.  Via the Fusion software it is possible to put audio on
Quicktime movies in this way, but we are forced to wonder if there is
not a cleaner way to do this.

    Replies to either the list (which is scanned everytime it comes out)
or via email to "[e-mail]" will be greatly appreciated.

    Also, is there any mailing list devoted to the Mac AV machines as of
yet?

                    Doc Kinne
                    User Services Consultant
                    Computer Services
                    SUNY Morrisville
                    [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 09:41:00 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Best place for VRAM (summary)

First off, thanks to the following folks who reply to my questions with the
(admittedly ambiguous) subject heading of "Unanswered questions" (or something
vague like that.  I've been properly (and gently) chastised about grouping
questions under vague sounding subject headers :-).

[e-mail] (Peter Gerhardstein)
[e-mail] (Glen C. Hoag)
Mark Vellek <[e-mail]>
"Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
"Frank Ripp, Ext 1313" <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] (Dennis)

all answered my question about the best place to get VRAM for my C650.  Chip
Merchant seems to be the way to go, although a couple of others, LLB and Newer
Technology, received mention.  I just put my order in a couple of days ago - 2
256K SIMMS for $38.45 including shipping.  Pretty good when you consider that
MacWarehouse wants to stick it to you for $49 for a SINGLE 256K SIMM.

Thanks again for the replies.

Butch Weber

From: WEBER MARLIN                  (MCDEV1::QC03525)

To:   VMS MAIL ADDRESSEE            (IN::"[e-mail]")
cc:   WEBER MARLIN                  (INDYVM1::QC03525)

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Date: 18 Dec 1993 17:36:01 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan Bauer)
Subject: Boycott NOT

Regarding the complaint about La Cie:  I have had nothing but good
experiences with that company and wouldn't hesitate to recommend their
products.

Just my .02

Jonathan

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 18 Dec 93 16:47:58 EST
From: Allan Hunter <[e-mail]>
Subject: Boycott YES!

Sorry, but if I remember the original posting, the guy who purchased the
LaCie drive was perfectly willing to PAY for repairs to it; LaCie just
wasn't willing to fix their own merchandise.

That's pretty sick.  When I take my old Mac into an Apple authorized
dealer for repairs, they don't tell me it's too old and not worth their
time to mess with.  And GM will still do work on my ancient Pontiac.

I wouldn't buy equipment from a company that won't service it except
during the warranty period unless the warranty period is 10 years or
more.

-Allan Hunter
 <ahunter@sbccvm>

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 16 Dec 93 09:49:32 PST
From: "Dave Leiner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Bridge Program for Mac (Q)

Does anyone have an opinion on the best bridge playing program for a
beginning player? (That's probably a silly question; Info-mac digest has
never had a shortage of opinions on any subject. :-} ) Among the choices are
Micro Bridge Companion, Bridge Master, Bridge Deluxe with Omar Sharif, and
Bridge 7.0. Please respond directly to me and I will summarize to the net. TIA

--Dave

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 21:19:59 -0600 (CST)
From: Christopher D Roy <[e-mail]>
Subject: CD300i Package

In response to:
[e-mail] writes:

>>Many people have bought the external and received the 8 or 9 CD collection,
>>but I haven't heard anyone getting CDs with their internal drive purchase.

>Well, I know someone who got 9 CDs with the purchase of his CD300i - me.  :-)

>>Actually, I have heard many people complain that they didn't get any.
>>If they have payed the same price as others - gave them complain!

>>I know of some Macs (ordered >2 months ago) that came with the same 8 or
>>9 CD
>>collection, but a recent order (not mine) came with only the installer CD.

>"Installer CD"?
>I have heard about the "Developer CD", but of any "Installer CD".
>What's on that CD?


Well, I got the 9-CD set with my CD300i that came with my Centris 610.  It
has something called "Macintosh CD Install Me First" in it, which is
basically a CD filled with ALL of the System 7.1 software, CD software,
Quicktime 1.6, AND Disk images!  It is _really_ neat.  If I did not get
that, I would be kinda miffed with Apple.
    If I were you, I'd write Apple and ask them to send it to you.

BTW- My set also came with "From Alice To Ocean", a _really_ cool CD to go
with the popular coffee-table book.

        -Nick ([e-mail])
          ([e-mail])
          ([e-mail])
          ([e-mail])
          (soon- [e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 02:44:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: CD Roms for a newspaper

Hello Mac-Netters:

I am looking for top quality CD-Roms that have:

1.      Postscript Fonts

2.      Clip-Art (EPS format)

(We are looking for Separate CD's)

Please include prices and where to purchase them if you know.  Thanks.

                    Gregory A. Sachs

                    Systems Analyst
                    _The Vanguard_
                    Bentley College
                    Waltham, MA

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 18 Dec 93 08:11:38 EST
From: Pete Tamas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Command symbol in Chicago (A)

re: cmd-key in Chicago

> Date: 7 Dec 1993 11:11:13 -0500
> From: "dlawrence" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: cmd key, splat key, flower key, fan key...
>
> => Darn it, could someone please remind me how to create the cmd-key
> => character in the Chicago font.
>
> I don't believe that the cloverleaf is a member of the Chicago set. It is
> however a member of the MerrionSquare font that Apple ocassionally
> bundles with developer gunk.
>
Actually, it IS in Chicago--that's why it appears in the menus.
If it weren't in Chicago, it wouldn't be in the menus since the
menus are in Chicago.

> And to prevent this in the future, you should have PopChar 2.5.2 by
Gunther
> Blaschek. It's a nifty utility that you drop in your system folder, and
upon
> restart, adds a little "P" icon to the menu bar. When editing text, you can
> click on this "P", and you'll be presented with a full font map. Drag to the
> character you want, and PopChar pastes it in place...in the font you're
> currently working in. Neat! And it's available at all the usual sites.

Good advice.

Other, less elegant ways to get it are through the Insert-Symbol
command in Word and by creating a keyboard resource in Resedit
that will allow you to put the command character in an easily
accessible location.

> David Lawrence -> [e-mail]...CIS:75300,2460...AOL:
> OLTDavid/DoctorMac
>
Best wishes, Pete Tamas,

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 17:10:54 +0100
From: [e-mail] (G. Sawitzki)
Subject: Disk setup software for A/UX and MacOS (Q)

What is the current tip how to initalize a disk/cartridge ?

In good old times, the trick was to use Apple HD SC A/UX Setup3.0. It would
format disks/cartridges from (nearly ?) any vendor and install a re-entrant
driver which could be used under Unix or MacOS.
But Apple HD SC Setup7.2 ignores disks initialized with Apple HD SC A/UX
3.0 - No test, No re-initialization. Congratulations.

What is the current tip ?


  Guenther Sawitzki  <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 22:17:41 -0600
From: (Pete Chane) <[e-mail]>
Subject: Easter Egg in Now Contact

In Now Contact 1.0, select About Now Contact from the Apple menu.  Then
hold down the cmd-option-control keys simultaneously for a moire fun than
you can possibly handle!

PETER CHANE
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
I will be gone from 12/18/93 to 1/22/94.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 16 Dec 93 12:40:02 +0100
From: "Olaf F. Normann" <[e-mail]>
Subject: gif to PICT converter (Q)

I have some gif-files which I want to convert to PICT files.
Does anyone know about such a utility?

Best regards
Olaf F. Normann

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 08:54:22 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Matthew Ahrens)
Subject: Hard Drive Leftovers

well, silverlining says that it can take several
hd's and make it into a big volume. havn't tried
it, but thatz what the manual says. I doubt that
it is RAID, though. you could always give one or
more to me :) write for my mailing address ;)

good luck!

--
My opinions are mine only and tentative, pending further data
Matthew Ahrens                      [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 09:19:46 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Matthew Ahrens)
Subject: Hermies II

I have some questions about the BBS software Hermies II v1.0.0.

When someone first connects, they just see garbage, and i hit the return key,
+ and then they see "enter your name" but not the message they are supposed to
+ get. When someone tries to connect at a speed greater than 9600, then they
+ just get garbage no matter what. Perhaps i need to change my initilization
+ strings. i have a supraFAXmodem 144lc, and a hardware handshaking cable.

I have the unregistered version, if it matters.

--
My opinions are mine only and tentative, pending further data
Matthew Ahrens                      [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 08:09:07 +0000
From: A.D'[e-mail] (Antony D'Emanuele)
Subject: Icon Previews - ThumbNail or alternative (Q)

I would like to create icon previews of tiff, giff and JPEG files.
Presently I have to open the files in Photoshop and then save them again.
Is there an easier alternative. I understand Thumbnail is the software to
get but I do not subscribe to Compuserve and can not get hold of a copy. Is
there alternative software that will allow me to drag files to an icon to
create automatic previews?
Regards, Tony D'Emanuele, University of Manchester.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 10:42:56 GMT
From: Sven Guckes <[e-mail]>
Subject: Info-mac mirror sites list?

Paul Hoffman writes:

>I looked around on Info-mac but couldn't find anything that resembles an
>official list of the Infor-mac mirror sites.
>I know that Wuarchive is one, but I thought that there were others.
>Does such an official list exist?

Yes, there is a list like that.
I couldn't find it instantly, so I just list a few FAQs which are stored
on UMICH as compensation.

Sven :)

===
UMICH           := mac.archive.umich.edu:mac
Send questions to "UMICH questions := [e-mail]".


/mac/misc/documentation/compsysmacappsfaq2.11.txt
  34     8/28/93    Text

   A compilation of questions frequently raised in the USENET
   newsgroup comp.sys.mac.apps.  Lots of useful, practical advice for
   anyone using a Mac, with information focusing on applications for
   the Mac.  This version dated 8/14/93.

/mac/misc/documentation/compsysmaccommfaq.txt
 126    11/27/93    Text

   A compilation of questions frequently raised in the Internet
   newsgroup comp.sys.mac.comm.  Lots of useful, practical advice for
   anyone using modems on a Mac. This version dated 11/23/93.

/mac/misc/documentation/compsysmacgeneralfaq2.21.txt
  62    10/16/93    Text

   A compilation of questions frequently raised in all the USENET
   comp.sys.mac.* newsgroups.  Lots of useful, practical advice for
   anyone using a Mac.  This version dated 10/10/93.

/mac/misc/documentation/compsysmacmiscfaq2.22.txt
  47    10/16/93    Text

   A compilation of questions frequently raised in the USENET
   newsgroup comp.sys.mac.misc.  Lots of useful, practical advice for
   anyone using a Mac, with information focusing on applications for
   the Mac.  This version dated 10/10/93.

/mac/misc/documentation/compsysmacprogrammerfaq.txt
  58      4/9/92    Text

   A compilation of questions frequently raised in the Internet
   newsgroup comp.sys.mac.programmer.  Lots of useful, practical
   advice for anyone programming on a Mac. This version dated 2/26/92

/mac/misc/documentation/compsysmacprogrammerpdfaq.txt
  58    10/30/93    Text

   A compilation of questions in general areas that often get asked
   about in the Internet newsgroup comp.sys.mac.programmer.  Lots of
   useful, practical advice for anyone programming on a Mac.  This
   version dated 10/23/93

/mac/misc/documentation/compsysmacsystemfaq2.21.txt
  37    10/16/93    Text

   A compilation of questions frequently raised in the USENET
   newsgroup comp.sys.mac.system.  Lots of useful, practical advice
   for anyone using a Mac, with information focusing on Macintosh
   System software.  This version dated 10/10/93.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 06:02:27 GMT
From: Sven Guckes <[e-mail]>
Subject: Internet Verbiage

[e-mail] writes:

>How DOES one describe communicating with someone on the 'net?
>Have I "talked" with someone, or "corresponded"?
>What is the appropriate verb for an e-mail communication?

It's best described as "virtual intercourse using bits and bytes"!

Sven :)  [Was it good for you, too?]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 20 Dec 93 10:09:53 EST
From: Tom Coradeschi <[e-mail]>
Subject: Internet Verbiage

Dwight Lemke <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I was talking with one of my colleagues recently and mentioned a
>discussion I was having on my Internet discussion group.  Hoes DOES
>one describe communicating with someone on the 'net?  Have I "talked"
>with someone, or "corresponded"?  What is the appropriate verb for
>an e-mail communication?

"Flamed"

Sorry, I couldn't resist:-}

        tom coradeschi    <+>    [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 16 Dec 93 23:29:41 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Gene)
Subject: JOB: Looking for person good w/Illustrator

Hi...sorry if this is not the perfect place for this message but.....

I do some tech-support work for a small company that has
been having serious problems finding a good and quick
operator (who can handle deadlines/stress/etc) for Illustrator 5.
They are running a decked out Quadra 950 (they better be, I
was responsable for it!) and are using Illustrator as an integral
part of their laser cutting outfit. They are based in South
Jersey (very near Philadelphia.) If anyone is interested in
the position or knows where else I could look for someone please
email me and/or contact them directly.

Me:
Trebor Smith
Satori Imaging
Net: [e-mail]
AOL: Trebor 42
Phone: [phone]

Company looking for Illustrator operator:
Bermic Enterprises
P.O. Box 2122
Cherry Hill NJ 08034-0155
Phone:[phone]
Fax: [phone]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 17 Dec 93 15:35:17 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: LaCie is Wrong!

Patrick T. Pruyne wrote

>  The recent calls for boycotting La Cie on this forum are
> out of line and irresponsible. All the facts have not been
> aired. Only one side of this story has been heard; t
hat of a
> disgruntled owner. Even he stated that the unit was OUT OF
> WARRANTY.
>
>
Warranty is important to me as a consumer; before I buy
> something I make a judgement based, in part, on how long the
> seller assumes responsibility for its performance. It tells
> me how durable the item is in the opinion of the manufacturer
> and how important customer satisfaction is to them. I assume
> that should anything happen to it after the warranty has
> expired that it is my problem. This is
 a basic reality of
> being a consumer.
>
>  Calls by purchasing managers for boycotts based upon a
> single kvetch fans rumors into damaged reputations for the
> flimsiest of reasons. Pity the folks who depend on these sort
> of managers to know what is going on.

I understand your point, but I think you are wrong! There is a significant
difference between length of warranty and the useful life of a product. The
warranty period has never been a good indication of the useful life of a
product, for any industry.

The way I see it, when something like an optical drive breaks there are few
alternatives for getting it fixed. Do you think that your friendly Apple
reseller is going to be able (competently) t
o fix it? I don't think so. Can you send it to another vendor's repair
facility? No! Is
there anywhere else you can think of to send it for repair? I can't. A broken
optical drive could likely to be the result of an optical problem, bad laser
source, bad IC, etc. Who would you pay $75 an
hour to figure it out? Chances are they couldn't fix it even if they could
diagnose the problem c
orrectly.

Let me put it this way. My Mac is 5 years old (that's 4.75 years out of
warranty). If it
breaks I can take it to my local Apple-authorized repair shop. I don't have a
local LaCie-authori
zed repair shop. I don't expect my Mac to break but if it does I have
options.

If I thought for a s
econd that my purchases wouldn't be repairable past the warranty period then
I certainly would alter my buying habits. And I would recommend to others
that they do the same. BTW, a one year warranty for an
 optical drive with no repair options after warranty expires is NOT
ACCEPTABLE. I wouldn't b
uy a Mac if I couldn't get it fixed past warranty, and I doubt any of you
would either.

When I bought my optical drive in April, 92, I narrowed my choices to PLI and
LaCie (I wanted a Sony mechanism). Luc
kily, I got a better deal on the PLI drive. BTW, I am very happy with my
drive. I've never had a problem with the drive or any of the Sony cartridges.
Tech support seems to be good also.

I agree
that this discussion has been pretty one-sided, but then again, it's pretty
hard to misunderstand "
Sorry, we don't repair drives that are-out of-warranty".

Tom Burris

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 15:30:48 -0600
From: "Joshua B. Colglazier"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: LaCie repair service - NONE?!?!?!

| Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 15:52:35 EST From: [e-mail] (BRUCE HUMPHREY)
| Subject: LaCie
|
| To all,
|
| If the latest note regarding LaCie's (nonexistent) repair support for its
| own products is true and accurate, I think it would do us all well to
| organize a LaCie boycott. If the story proves out, you can be sure I (being
| a primary Mac purchasing advisor on this campus and to numerous external
| users) WON'T be recommending their products. In fact, I'll actively
| encourage buyers to look elsewhere whenever I'm asked for recommendations
| or overhear discussions along those lines.
|

As a Macintosh consultant and involved university student as well as an Office
Manager, I support Bruce's suggestions.  I wrote to the original poster but
have received no reply.  I'd suggest that we get someone from LaCie to respond
in written form so that the issue is covered fairly...

Joshua B. Colglazier ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Dec 93 21:09:11 -0800
From: [e-mail] (scott mclagan)
Subject: LineLink fax modems

A colleague just took the LineLink plunge. He owns a legal copy
of Fax STF, but of course 'LineLink' doesn't show up on the
Install list.

Could someone please send the recomended setup?
Thanks very much.

[PS. Many thanks to all who responded to the cmd. key, splat key,
flower key, fan key quandary. And to Al Bloom for the
Chicago Symbol font. As everyone is now aware, the Command Key
symbol can be generated with the ctrl-q keystroke. Good ol'
control key...in some ways the 'original modifier', preceded
only by the shift key.]

Scott McLagan <[e-mail]>
Coordinator for Computers, School District #43 (Coquitlam), B. C., Canada

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 08:55:37 -0600 (CST)
From: "Larry Rymal:T.E.M.U.G.-EAST_TEXAS-" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mac "REAL" multitasking...? (q)

Folks,

    I wonder when the Mac will ever "multi-task"?  I honestly don't want to
stir up anything, and I know that this is a controversial topic in circles
outside of the Commodore Amiga and somewhat outside the Atari ST. But,
gosh!
    Try downloading a large file via your modem and a standard
terminal program.  Now, boot up another program and do something fairly
active.  Try to ignore what is occuring in the background.  If it is a
word processor, do some heavy typing or graphics manipulations.  Do this
for about five minutes or so.
    Return to your terminal program.  More than likely, you'll see
that your session has disconnected, timed out, or there have been several
retries during the download session.
    Before I get flamed and torched, observe a similar situation on a
lowly $400 Atari ST.  There will be no timeouts, no disconnects.  INDEED,
you can even reset the ST and the download will STILL occur, without any
timeouts.  Amazingly, in the theme of multi-tasking, the ST has been rated
a loser.
    This is a frustrating topic for me.  I am amazed that a $3300
Macintosh has to, for all practical purposes, sit on the desk, unable to
be used as a lengthy download session occurs.  Note that the Mac used was
a 840AV. I don't even dare try this with my personal Mac LCIII.
    Also, the terminal programs used were typical:  Z-Term and
Microphone Pro.

--Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 09:42:55 -0600 (CST)
From: "Larry Rymal:T.E.M.U.G.-EAST_TEXAS-" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mac "REAL" multitasking...? (r)

On Sun, 19 Dec 1993, Dow Thompson wrote:

> I've tried a 680040 33 mhtz Rocket board on my Quadra 900 and it did
> multitask. I had to use it to scan large photos and use Photoshop at the
> same time. That might be the closest thing to real multitasking. You can
> have up to 4 Rockets. 3D on one ,Zterm,Scan and print on the others and
> Photoshop on the motherboard. It gets confusing to jump around.

    Whew!  What a lovely dream setup!  I'll bet that is as close to a
baby Cray as one can get.  I can't even imagine what it would be like to
have 4 Rockets in such a marvelous system.
    However, "if-a-$400-AtariST-can-download-in-the-background" why
can't a 68030 and upwards 'standard-issue' Mac do the same?  It is a
loaded question.  Obviously, the Mac doesn't have the architecture in a
standard setup, but I still find it irritating.

--Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 09:49:42 -0600 (CST)
From: "Larry Rymal:T.E.M.U.G.-EAST_TEXAS-" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mac "REAL" multitasking...? (r)

On Sun, 19 Dec 1993, Romeyn Prescott wrote:


> I have never actually had a session disconnect while downloading and
> doing something else, but I will say that both processes slow down
> considerably while there is modem activity.  THIS is frustrating.  I
> have a PB145.  Try downloading, typing in MS Word, and printing to a
> StyleWriter II all at the same time.
> [OTHER SUPPORTIVE STATEMENTS EDITED OUT]

    I really have never seen a Mac handle downloads gracefully in such
a manner that other activity could occur.  On the Atari ST, back in 1987,
a communications program called SHADOW did downloads so deep in the
background that you could actually see the blocks being received during a
computer reset.  It was completely unnerving.  And programs in the
foreground worked so transparently, that one never really felt a speed hit
as the download occured.
    The Atari ST is a 8mhz 68000 machine.  The Commodore Amiga
probably does downloads even better in the background than the ST.
    As graceful as the Mac is to use, and much as I enjoy it, I still
find some things which I wish were improved upon.  This is certainly one
area.
    And my apologies for bring stuff up like this every now and then.
That's what we get when an Atari ST transplant migrates over and purchases
Apple equipment.  I have a sizeable investment in Apple equipment, or at
least for me it is sizeable.  grin

--Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>


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Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 17:15:11 -0600 (CST)
From: "Larry Rymal:T.E.M.U.G.-EAST_TEXAS-" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mac "REAL" multitasking...? (r)

On Sun, 19 Dec 1993, Chris Schulte wrote:

> Hey, I just moved to MAC from an old Commodore 64, and even MOVING to a
> word processor while downloading is WONDERFUL!  Once you get used to it, and
> find something that doesn't live up to "standards" you start bashing it.

    I also used to have a Commodore 64 and we have come a long way.
But this is a free society, so far.  Surely, one can express
dissatisfaction at newer equipment when older technology, in certain
areas, can do a better job.
    Sure, the Commodore 64 was a little creaky on file transfers, ten
years ago.  But, place a current Mac against a five year old Commodore
Amiga 500 on file transfers and you'll find the Amiga will typically
perform better. The Commodore 64, using a customized 6502 family brain is
not in the same league as the 68000 series Atari STs, Macs, and Amigas.
Of those, the Ataris and Amigas can download seamlessly in the background.
    Hades suggested I use the Atari for file transfers.  I have
thought about it, but the suggestion frustrates me.  My Mac does a
marvelous job in all areas but telecommunications and I just wish that
weakness could be improved upon.
    Hades also suggested that I use Fetch.  Well..., right!  But, I'm
on a modem, using a phone line to a service that does not support Slip.
Perhaps when T-1 lines, as per Al Gore, become common place...
    Hades also asked when I ever did real DTPing and photo re-touching
on the ST.  No problem there. The Atari ST and its stronger Falcon series
has sophisticated DTPing programs in that area also.  Calamus SL comes to
mind. Just like the Mac, whatever one's money purse can support, the Atari
computers can do graphics jobs including re-touching, animations, ray
tracing, and rendering.
    But, that is not my point and I wish to avoid such comparisons as
to what the Atari computers can do in areas where the Mac has excelled.  I
really don't understand why the Mac, in its ten years of existance, is so
weak during multiple program useage.  The Mac is so elegant.  Sometimes,
though, I wish its weaknesses could be examined openly.  If it were not
for the Mac, I would think the computing world would be frankly, very
boring.

--Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>

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Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 20:04:55 -0600 (CST)
From: "Larry Rymal:T.E.M.U.G.-EAST_TEXAS-" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mac "REAL" multitasking...? (r)

On Sun, 19 Dec 1993, Brian V. Hughes wrote:

> >        But, that is not my point and I wish to avoid such comparisons as
> >to what the Atari computers can do in areas where the Mac has excelled.
>
>     But you will make comparisons the other way around? Your whole
> article was based on the fact that a terminal program you use on your
> Atari can download better than a terminal program on your Mac. The Mac
> has excelled in networking but not necessarily in modem communications.

    The question would be why would I NOT use the Atari ST/Falcon
series for telecommunications when I state that I think it does a better
job, particularly in the area of background file transfers.
    Well...it is one of those "hate the mother-in-law, but you love
her food" arguments.  The Atari ST/Falcon series is just not in the market
anywhere near that of the Mac.  The platform is a cult computer and Atari
seems to have their target set on the 64bit Jaguar.
    I go into a long argument as to why I prefer the Mac to do just
about any function over any computer, including the ST.
    To be frank, I just like the Mac better, in spite of the
weaknesses.  Having exposure to other systems, I know what its strengths
and weaknesses are.  Absolutely, I could do some really neat graphics
stuff on the Atari, but would rather do it on the Mac.
    So, I guess in a way, I want what I consider the Atari's strengths
on my Mac.  What's wrong with that?  <G>  And that includes its superior
ability to do background file transfers without affecting other programs.
    Now this isn't the first time I have brought something up from the
Atari world on this forum.  A few years ago, I was told that we could not
have auto-compression of data that is done on the ST as what we have now
with AutoDoubler. It was explained to me in several days' worth of
messages why it was not possible on the Mac due to the separate resource
file, etc.
    Funny, a year later, we had AutoDoubler, SpaceSaver and after
that, Stacker, and others.

>     Well, why don't you try using a couple of other programs before you
> condemn the Mac for how it handles modem applications. And I agree that
> the Mac is a very elegant computer.

    There was one program, Intercom, right?  It supposedly allowed for
background transfers but for some reason, that program never really took
off well.  Do you have any suggestions?

--Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>

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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 17:40:32 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Harry Myhre)
Subject: Mac IIsi - why no upgrade path?

As an owner of a Mac IIsi, I cringe every time I read about yet another
Apple supported upgrade for the cheaper cousin of the IIsi, the LC. My
question is why all the Apple supported upgrades for the LC and nothing,
nada, zilch, rien, for us IIsi owners?

I bought the IIsi over the LC with the idea it would be easier to upgrade
someday. Hah! Was I ever wrong.

Oh well, I guess things could be worse (like the IIvx story).

---
Harry Myhre <[e-mail]>

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 10:31:13 GMT
From: Sven Guckes <[e-mail]>
Subject: Netiquette on thread and subject lines (Re: A few unanswered
questions)

[e-mail] writes:

>I've only recently discovered the wonders of Internet and Usenet

The proper line here is "I'm a newbie".  :-)

>I know these are pretty unrelated, so if proper net ettiquette (sp?) calls for
>separate messages just say so and I'll make sure any future postings reflect
>this.

I suggest you post each question seperately.
This will start a thread for each question.
Noone needs to edit out the questions he can't answer and the subject
will point directly to the problem and (possible) answers.
Obviously the subject line should be informative.
However you define this, let me make a suggestion:
Put the name of the concerned hardware/software in front.
Maybe put the question after that.

The subject lines for your questions might look like this:

Subject: VRAM SIMMS for C650 - cheapest offer? (MacWeek: 256K for $15)
Subject: MacTools upgrade to 3.0 - are $50 worth it?
Subject: Bookstores for CS books sought

Please note that this followup does not answer any of the three posed questions
but rather a meta question.  Thus I have changed the subject line accordingly.
The old subject line is still included for people who use killfiles.
I wish more folks would change the subject line this as selection for reading
is usually done by looking at the subject line.

Sven :)  [VRAM question:  Buy the VRAM expansion by getting a CD-ROM.]

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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 04:11:13 GMT
From: [e-mail] (David Anderson)
Subject: New Hard Drive Needed (Q)

[e-mail] writes:

>La Cie has their 170MB Tsunami drive for $239 and APS has a 170MB SR2000 drive
>for $289.  Both use the Quantum 170ELS mechanism.  Is there any advise on
>either
>of these drives (or companies)?  (I know MacUser has a review of drives in the
>upcoming March issue, but I can`t wait!)

I've had personal experience with APS and would gladly deal with them
again.  Bought a Micropolis 1.2 gig in the SR2000 enclosure and have
absolutely loved it.  Tech support is great.  Go for APS!

--
David Anderson_________________Nashville TN_________________Music City USA

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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 93 11:20:09 gmt
From: Mark Elliott <[e-mail]>
Subject: persistance of vision 2.1

i have tried to get the POV raytracer version 2.1 from alfred.ccs.?????
(can't remember the full name) and i can't do anything with the
files i get ( i tried a binary download)
the files are all .SEA , but when i get them to my mac, they appear as text
files.
Has anyone succesfully got these files ( and how ?) ?

if so, could you please mail the binhexed files to me ? or post to sumex ?

thanks in advance

Mark Elliott

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 93 13:03:09 EST
From: Pete tamas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Photoshop color separations

While I have not done separations in Photoshop yet, this is almost
certainly a mistake. Generally you EITHER separate into CMYK OR
you use spot colors. Also, a $2 million offset press can do 6
colors at a time which generally is CMYK plus 2 spot colors or
one spot color and a varnish. In any event, you pay for more than
4 colors.

If anyone can add to this, I'd appreciate it.

On Wed, 15 Dec 1993 23:19:30 -0800 Paul R. Woods said:
>I've created a file in photoshop that needs to be spot color separated. To
>the best of my knowledge, in order to do this in photoshop, you have to set
>your file to RGB mode tell it to maximize black in separation setup then
>set your colors. Once your done you switch your file to CMYK and tag your
>spot colors for C or M or Y or K. My question/problem is what to do if you
>have more than 4 spot colors?
>
I doubt that a bounding box can be anything other than square. You
should be aware that "nesting" too many EPS files into each other
can render the file unprintable.-Pete Tamas
[e-mail] or TempleVM.bitnet

>Aside from that I have a question regarding placing EPS files in
>Illustrator. When placing an EPS file in Illustrator it is placed in its
>own bounding box; this box has a white background. When I get it too close
>to something else I have to make sure it's the back most object so that
>other items are not covered by its white bounding box. But what if you have
>two EPS images close to each other? The real question here is - Is there
>anyway to change to bounding box into a polygon instead if it always being
>a square?
>
>Any suggestions are appreciated.
>
>By the way could someone please forward the photoshop news list name to me.
>
>Thanks much,
>
>Pauls wife, Elena
>

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 12:00:48 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Eric Burger)
Subject: PopChar 2.*6*.2 (C)

> From: "dlawrence" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: PopChar 2.*6*.2
>
> And I also discovered that PopChar doesn't show any of the control coded
> characters in Chicago. Not only do you have the command-key symbol, but you
> also have the shift, option, control, backspace, forward-delete, and lots of
> others.

One thing I found is that PopChar 2.6.2 does something really
bizzare with the menu bar.  I've used PopChar for three years,
but now I'm forced to pull it out.  There's some kind of interaction,
especially with SAM 3.5 -- click in the menu bar and straight to
MacsBug!

--
--  Eric William Burger       --  [e-mail]  --
--  The Telephone Connection  --  Rockville, MD  20850       --

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 93 08:31:52 MST
From: "Roger B. Marks"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: PopChar 2.6.2 vs. earlier versions

>This is strange. PopChar 2.5.2 (yes, _5_) shows me the Command-key symbol and
>tells me that it's control-Q in Chicago. Does PopChar 2.6.2 no longer show
>this?

No, it doesn't. And while we're on the subject, I have another complaint about
2.6.2: it's slow. It takes 6-8 seconds to display the full character set. I'm
almost sure that older versions just popped the whole character set almost
instantly.


Roger
[e-mail]            NIST/Boulder, CO

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 09:00:13 -0800
From: Jerry Wilcox <[e-mail]>
Subject: Popchar and Chicago

David Gutierrez writes in IM VII #241:

>This is strange. PopChar 2.5.2 (yes, _5_) shows me the Command-key symbol and
>tells me that it's control-Q in Chicago. Does PopChar 2.6.2 no longer show
>this?

PopChar 2.6.2 will show you this, providing you have it set to display at
12-point. For some reason, the 14-point display does not show the
Command-key symbol. Since the default string is "14 12 10 18", PopChar
shows fonts at 14-point if possible. Change the string in the control panel
to 12 only and then look at Chicago with PopChar 2.6.2. You'll see the
Command-key symbol near the upper left.

Jerry

-----
Jerry Wilcox - [e-mail]
All opinions are mine alone - the University can speak for itself.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 20 Dec 93 10:04:01 EST
From: Bill Harrigan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Quadra 660AV info(summary) CORRECTIONS

Hello again,

I made a few errors on my summary posting that a few of you were quick to
point out.  I would like to apologize for this and I hope that my errors didn't
 cause any trouble for anybody.

I have found out that you CAN watch live video while working in another
application, you just can't record that video.  Also, I guess the AudioVision
14 inch monitor doesn't come bundled with the adapter in all cases...it did
in my bookstore, so I (wrongly) made the assumption that this was true
elsewhere.

Once again, I apologize for any inconvenience that this may have caused.

Bill Harrigan
[e-mail]
The University of Rhode Island

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 17 Dec 93 19:46:38 EST
From: Robert Moore <[e-mail]>
Subject: quadra 840av video port

We've a Quadra 840av with a 3rd party video board on the NuBus and
a 3rd party monitor. When no monitor is connected to the built-in
video port we get a bomb and a "sorry a bus error has occurred" message
when the system is booted.

- if even an UNPOWERED monitor is connected to the built-in video then
  everything is fine. Makes me think we could replace that with three
  resistors (except we could keep losing things off the upper left side
  of our 3rd party monitor). And as for elegance ??

- the system does boot fine if the shift key is held down (in principle
  this doesn't load inits at bootup). But we have moved OODLES of stuff
  off the disk, every control panel, inits in chunks etc and still get
  the problem.

The problem does not occur on other built-in video mac's (say our ci)
nor does it happen on the 3rd party's OWN 840av on which they have done
all sorts of nice things for us (new board PROM, new drivers) by way of
making things work at all on the 840av.

Ideas?

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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 15:14:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: QuicKeys replacement?

Is there a simple program out there, commercial or otherwise,
that will make a command-key sequence stand for text?  I have
become quite disillusioned with QuicKeys (and CE Software for that
matter).
Thanks,
--Don Shupe
[e-mail]

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Date: 16 Dec 1993 07:38:08 -0600
From: [e-mail] (SYSTEM)
Subject: Quicktime Init problem

When I booted this morning, everything worked fine until the finder tried to
take over after startup, then it hung.  By process of elimination, I found that
the Quicktime Init is causing the problem.  Nothing has changed (as far as I
know) since yesterday when everything worked fine.

Any ideas?

Thanx,

Gerg.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 20 Dec 93 12:33:01 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Dr. Weiqi Zhang)
Subject: RasterOps FTP Server

Hi, Netter,
>From one of the last number of Mac-Info, I got the FTP-Server Name of
RasterOps : FTP.Rasterops.com. But I always got the message that the address
is in correct.
Now I got the right Server name from RasterOps: Support.Rasterops.Com or IP#
198.37.40.120.
I hope this helps !
Happy  hollidays !
Weiqi Zhang
Dr. Weiqi Zhang
Department of Phsiology
University of Bern
Buhlplatz  5
CH-3012 Bern
Switzerland

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Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 19:45:08 -0600 (CST)
From: "Larry Rymal:T.E.M.U.G.-EAST_TEXAS-" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SeaQuest sez...

    According to the 19 December 93 episode of SeaQuest, between now and
2010, Apple will have bought Microsoft!  GRIN
    Did anyone else catch that on this episode?
    It would be incredibly interesting if this is prophetic.

--Larry

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 14:38:59 -0800 (PST)
From: John Thoo <[e-mail]>
Subject: SITcomm (C)

On 11 Dec 1993 I posted:
> I'm interested in trying out Aladdin's new comm pkg, SITcomm.  Is there a
> demo available for downloading?  If not, then can someone who's using
> SITcomm compare it to ZTerm, the prog I'm currently using?  Thanks.

A few folks responded to my query.  (Thanks, folks---y'know who you are :-)
Since a few others also wrote asking me to forward any info I might
learn, I thought I should post to the digest.  BTW, there is apparently
_no_ demo available :-(


Those who've used SITcomm had nothing but good things to say about
SITcomm, recommending it over ZTerm.  The following list of features is
copied from one of the replies.

> Built in auto stuffing, and built in translation for several archiving
> formats (zip, uuencode, binhex, compact pro...)
>
> scripting through AppleScript (no internal scripting). This can be quite
> nice and is much more powerful.
>
> No QuickB, but has Kermit.
>
> uses comm toolbox, so you can use all those neat connection methods
> (TCP IP, etc).
>
> Fancier interface (toolbar etc.)
>
> Uses more hard disk space: there isn't just the application, there are a
> whole lot of tools that get installed in the extension folder, of course,
> this means that other applications can have access to them too.

In addition, one respondent said
> I have a dial-up unix acount at my University and I love SITComm. It uses
> Apples VT102 tool, which I have have never had any problems with.


I hope this helps.

--John.
J. B. THOO, Math Dept, Univ of California, Davis <[e-mail]>

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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 01:36:25 +0800
From: [e-mail] (John W. Blackburne)
Subject: Speech for Excel

Jeffrey N. Fritz ([e-mail]) wrote:

>I think Microsoft should develop and release a PIM for Word 5.x and
>whatever it takes for Excel 4.0.  (Copy and paste to a speech oriented
>text editor isn't getting the job done in either case.)

Somebody already has, or at least for Excel. A coulple of months back I
wrote an Add-In for Excel 4, "ExcelTalk" which uses the Speech Manager to
speak various things controlled by menu commands or from the macro
language. One of the nice things about Excel it is so easy to customise.It
is free, so I will get it uploaded here (not previouly done as I only just
got onto the Internet).

John

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 16:28:16 -0700
From: [e-mail] (John Daspit, C.U. LASP, [phone])
Subject: Speech recognition programs

Hi,
    Are there any commercial software interfaces to the AVs speech
recognition available yet? I want to be able to speak-type letters into
text windows and do speech-mouse control. Also, how about multi-track
recording software for the DSP? Thanks for any all info!  JD  Univ. of Colorado

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 16 Dec 93 14:56:30 EST
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Splat/Chicago Symbols/PopChar

On 15 Dec 1993, David Gutierrez writes:

>This is strange. PopChar 2.5.2 (yes, _5_) shows me the Command-key symbol and
>tells me that it's control-Q in Chicago. Does PopChar 2.6.2 no longer show
>this?

And Tonya Engst said pretty much the same thing. It isn't the version of
PopChar you use, folks. It is something else. PopChar has *never* shown
me the Chicago symbols, and Ctrl-Q gives me an empty box. Been that way
since I was young. Before dirt.

I don't disbelieve anyone who can get the splat symbol from PopChar or
Ctrl-Q. I'm just saying that David Lawrence isn't making up the fact
that he can't get it. Or at least David isn't alone in his delusion ;-)

That's why there is a fontlet in the archives called Chicago Symbols. It
reliably gives you all those toys.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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Date: Sun, 19 Dec 93 17:54:32 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Terminal connection programs

I have a Centris 660av with the Geoport. Ineed[D[D[D[D need to connect to my
school's mainframe
especially the Notis library system. All the programx I have tried word fine
but
don not support TVI950 which I have found to work (The function keys
copr[D[Drrespond).
TERM works but with the Centris 660AV I get somesort of audio feedback when I
connect until I enter my first command at the gateway.  What I need is a
communications program that supports TVI950, Kermit file transfer, Function key
support, and works with the geoport and 660av.  Any suggestions?
Thanks
Chris Etesse
Lexington, Kentucky

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 11:13:27 +0000
From: [e-mail] (Malcolm Bebb)
Subject: Using Mac to produce training videos

An acquaintance wants to use a Mac to produce training videos. He wants to
use annotated stills and some camera footage (no problem so far) and output
the finished material to a PAL VCR.

He's looking to produce good quality (but not necessarily broadcast
quality) videos, and although he's not trying to do it on the cheap, he
doesn't want to spend a fortune either.

He's been looking at a 660AV, but isn't sure if it will do what he wants,
particularly the video output, and is unclear about what extra hardware he
will need if he gets a 660AV (apart from RAM and disk storage, that is).

I don't know enough about this stuff to advise him. Anyone care to offer
any advice, or point me towards a suitable newsgroup?

TIA,


Malcolm     [e-mail]  (Usual disclaimers apply)
       [e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 19 Dec 93 11:18:32 EST
From: Allan Hunter <[e-mail]>
Subject: WANTED:  List for Amiga users

Anyone know of a list similar to this one for Amiga users?  If so,
please let me know.

<[e-mail]>

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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 93 9:19:01 CET
From: XO 54th Engr Bn <[e-mail]>
Subject: Want to Swap German-style PB AC Adapter for US-style

Sorry for the narrow interest posting here, but I have no access to
USENET and its specialty groups.

I currently live in Germany but will soon be returning to the States.
I own a PowerBook 100 with a German-style AC adapter and would be
interested in swapping for a US-style AC adapter.  While I have the
necessary gizmos (that's a technical term) to work with US-style
outlets, a swap would make my life easier and hopefully do the same
for someone here in Germany with a US-style adapter.

E-mail directly to me and we can work out the details over the phone.

Jim Hays
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 93 03:01:12 CST
From: David Rostker <[e-mail]>

To: [e-mail]
Subject: Global Vilage Support (A)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest

I also want to express my extreme satisfaction with Global Villiage's
Technical Support. My PowerPort Gold died. Out and out died. It accepted
AT commands, but wouldn't open for connection. I called Tech Support, he
had me do three tests, calling him back each time, after which he said,
"OK, it's dead." The entire thing had to be replaced.
    Well, Global Villiage has a very nice service whereby they take
a credit card number and send out a replacement immediately. With the
replacement, comes a receipt good for sending the bad one back. It
worked like a charm. I got the new modem on Monday after calling on
Friday.
    Again, the support staff was very competent and graceful. I've
been extremely happy to recommend them to any friend willing to listen
(and pay the premium).

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